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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:33 am 
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Hi TFPers, I have a quick question I suspect one of you may be able to help with.

If a private pilot goes behond the 24 calander months in which a biannual flight review is required - are there any special requirements to become current again? I noticed CFI's have to jump through some extra hoops renewing there certificate. Is a PPL similiar, in that I'll need to do another "checkride" or are there any other special requirements I'll need to fill.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:44 am 
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nope, a flight review can be completed at any time. The 24 month requirement is a "look back" requirement. So if you can look back through the last 24 months and see a flight review in your logbook, you can legally act as PIC.

2 yrs ago I did a flight review for a local A&P who had been working for 25 yrs as a police officer. His last flight had been in 1979. Needless to say, when people have a long layoff like that, the 1 hr ground and 1 hr dual requirements are going to be exceeded. IIRC that guy took about 5 hrs flight and 5 hrs ground.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:20 pm 
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Thanks for the good news Tony! I aprreciate the help, I had looked through the regs and had a hard time finding anything definitive. Listening to the finer points podcast has helped to re-ignite my love of flying, time to head in for a BAFR and then log some Xcountry hours!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:02 pm 
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Tony,

So here's a question for you. I assume that your A&P didn't do one 5 hour flight and therefore wasn't "current" during the training. Did he get to log PIC during these dual flights? I assume he did since he was flying an aircraft that he held appropriate category and class. But I've heard alternative arguments that since he was out of the 24-calendar-month flight review requirement that he couldn't be PIC. What's your take?

-Landis


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:06 pm 
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He certainly logged PIC time during the flight review, as he was rated in category and class and was sole manipulator of the controls. However, since he was not legal to ACT as PIC, I was the acting PIC of the flight and responsible for the safe outcome etc. etc. There is a often misunderstood but sometimes important difference between acting as PIC and logging PIC.

Here is a very handy flowchart for deciding if you can Log PIC time:

http://webpages.charter.net/edfred/LoggingPIC.pdf

and I can't find the link to Ed's flowchart which describes when you can Act as PIC. let me do some digging...

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